I have been thinking on my recent number of approaches (7 of them) over the last day or so, analysing and re-doing them in my mind. Asking myself,
“Am I following the model…strong opening with intent, stack observations, vibe/spike to hook before falling into comfort and close“.
At the forefront of my mind has been the necessity to see this framework played out. I began to notice in-set that if the girl didn’t immediately reciprocate interest or engage, that the set was dying. I will be the first to admit that I allowed newbie nerves to fast-track the set to close or simply break the set and walk away.
I went back to basics last night and looked over a few in-fields from Torero and the like. Expecting to see beautifully rendered Daygame sets with wonderful signposted stages, I was astounded at the essential breakdown of the ‘model logic’ that many of these people espouse while they are in-set. We see the interaction often morphing instead into some ad-hoc creative episode comprised largely of comfort and vibing at the front-end of the interaction.
It is really interesting how so many sets immediately enter into ‘normal’ conversation where any and all topics are brought up e.g. what state they are from, their job etc – which forms the basic chat-focus for 3 minutes before the close is made. The stack itself in many of Torero’s sets lasts no-more than 20 seconds in many of his sets (e.g. walking like an astronaut/walk like a flamingo etc, with a brief explanation as to why he thinks this). He then very rapidly moves the interaction past this and into an introduction where he asks their name and shakes hands heralding a 3 to 4 minute comfort phase i.e. small talk that is light, good-humoured and largely about nothing.
Two common examples of this Open/Stack as a single point of entry into the Set
1. “Can I just say one/something random/cheeky thing. I know you’re on a mission. But you looked very beautiful/i love your hair. Do you wake up and it’s like that or you spend 6 hours on it?”
2. “I just wanted to say you look really nice. You seem suspiciously happy. The way you are walking like an astronaut/dressed all in black, it’s a bit bizarre. I thought to myself why is that girl smiling”
The above examples would be delivered slowly and give the girls a chance to respond. They do not need more than 20 seconds of investment across the set. With relation to the Law Student girl last night I could have created a far better interaction because she did, in hindsight, give me a lot to work with. I cannot criticise her for failing to deliver information in neat packages that slot easily into the LDM framework. I should have said:
“I just wanted to say something cheeky. You look really nice. Your eyes look really amazing. Imagine they took like two weeks to prepare them and now you’re stood all alone in a bus station with no-one to show them to”.
When she started the Law conversation this was another stack I could have went with before grounding the conversation (my name is) and attempting to close on the back of a stabilised interaction.
Moving forward, I am following a more streamlined approach that is born out of observing sets online and which will hopefully feel more natural in delivery. The key point is the transition from opening into grounding or normal conversation as a function of the girls initial reaction. See below.
1. Open with Stack
Sorry to be cheeky. I know you’re looking at crisps/sitting in a bus station/coffee shop, but you looked very nice
Say what you see and twist it
Your long black legs, you looked like a flamingo
Something about your hair/way you have done your eyes that I really like
***At this point the girl may smile/nod/do nothing/say thank-you or, she may carry the conversation by engaging in the topic. This is ultimately the Hook Point. If she fails to do this, I would enter 2 (as Torero does when girls don’t invest quickly into the set).***
2. Ask name
Well, I just wanted to meet you. What’s your name?
3. Be Normal
e.g. Normal interaction – e.g. their height/dress/what they do
4. Qualify
Can you guess where I am from/what I do/basic small talk
5. Close
Right I have to go but it would be good to grab a drink/coffee. Let me send you a message and you can decide. Did you remember my name? Good way to reinforce the interaction.
I have decided that I will be hugely simplifying the interaction now and not hesitating to move into an introduction straight after the Open/Stack phase. I am treating this as a much more fluid property going forward.

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