Imagine if Krauser was told to aim lower…

A tale of a beginner, someone stuck in lower intermediate hell and a Master PUA all at once.

Several guys have reached out to me for my views on a recent blog post by Thomas Crown and the topic seems sufficiently interesting enough for me to add my thoughts.

I will say from the off that this post isn’t designed to initiate any kick-offs. I am playing the ball and not the man.

So let’s begin at the beginning and tackle the first point which introduces us to the notion of the  “beginner daygamer” which is defined by Thomas simply as someone with AA and self-doubt. It is worth stating immediately that AA and self-doubt are voluntary mindsets for some men, meaning of course that the notion of a “beginner daygamer” won’t apply to some men (ahah! So does this then mean these men are lower intermediate before having done their first set? I’ll discuss this type of categorisation and it’s flaws in detail, below).

The next iteration is “the lower intermediate daygamer” who he defines as someone who has got laid maybe 3 times from his first 1000 sets:

Rather than spinning the wheels, this is the point at which the wheels on his argument come off because it highlights Crown’s inability to understand the implications of the definitions he uses and the ad hoc nature in which he applies them. Take my 2022 for example. In Newcastle, I got laid once from some 200 sets and suffered some approach anxiety on home soil. Extrapolating my results to 1000 sets I would have had maybe 4 or 5 lays based on the Crown Metric. Would this have placed me in the Upper-Lower Intermediate Hell? Or perhaps I may have qualified for Lower Middle Intermediate Purgatory, or even the adjudication committee (if they were feeling generous) may have awarded me the Middle-Intermediate badge? How much more work and results would I need to achieve to reach the echelons of the coveted Upper Intermediate brigade? But more than this – how do you even define these silly iterations in meaningful, measurable terms given the fact these flawed definitions barely withstand a breeze of scrutiny.

If you think the above recourse to poorly defined and ill-applied definitions of daygamer membership is confusing and unnecessary then rest assured, it is. But the flames of confusion begin to take hold even more when you look at my wider results across 2022. Based on these definitions there is an argument to be made that I would have still been a ‘beginner’ because of the AA I was experiencing on home soil combined with a 1 in 200 close rate. But this is where it gets really interesting. Over the same year while daygaming overseas I was sleeping with 1 in 20 girls I was opening (see 2022 review here). So by this same Crown Metric – I was a ‘beginner’, a ‘lower intermediate (or was I a middle-intermediate?) and an advanced PUA all at the same time.

So many guys in the community lap up quotes like below and swallow the shoddy application of definitions and stats from figures of authority who have hastily created cool-sounding concepts but failed to consider the implications of their thinking in any great detail (as my examples above illustrate).

Sliding Doors

My first take on the below was surprise. Then I realised it was simply par for the TC course. Imagine a world where TC was asked for advice by a relatively short and average-looking Geordie bloke who had done 1000 sets and still hadn’t been laid yet. The advice that TC would have given to our Geordie friend would have been literal and is provided below:

He would have said: you’re not good-looking enough and you’re not high-value enough. Aim lower or quit. So our Geordie would have tottered off with his tail between his legs and likely gave up on his daygame journey altogether and would certainly not have embarked on a career that ignited a global sub-culture, nor would he have banged models and porn stars as he went on to do. We have to be eternally grateful that our Geordie did not meet a coach like Thomas Crown, because if he did, we probably would never have had The London Daygame Model, either. The Geordie I am discussing here is, of course, Nick Krauser – who needed over 1000 daygame approaches to get his first daygame lay. The rest as we know is history.

The slippery slope into Good Looking Guy Game

According to the above. Being High Value is: being thinner, dressing cool, being cheerful, being confident, not being lazy. There you go, lads. A high-value man has been born. Now of course I’m not literally meaning this but simply turning TCs descriptions on their heads shows the absurdity of the position. High-value has become a complete parody of itself. Ask 100 women what a high value man is and I’m betting it would differ enormously from the Red Pill and Tateisms vomited up by players and on line gurus. Yet men keep chasing their tails.

Thomas has recruited two pontificators to support his point. This guy called Lee barks his orders at his audience dictating that ‘whining won’t change anything and you need to put the work in’. Did Lee do these things? Is he speaking from a soapbox or a position of authority? Of course, what Lee fails to mention is the copious amounts of steroid abuse he took as a shortcut instead of doing it the hard way. He comes from no position of authority and is in no position to dictate do’s and dont’s through his experience, methods and means. We also see a quote from Jabba that relies on a rhetorical device to get you the reader to think in a certain way via a completely nonsensical scenario for the purpose of evoking a particular reaction and persuading you to think in a certain way. It’s bait and switch (now hold that thought).

And here is the rub. The nod to Good Looking Guy Game. This next image strikes at the heart of the matter and captures why I feel so much of what TC says is plain wrong, immature and unsophisticated. He simply does not have the life experience or the travel experience to understand just how wrong his assertions are. The overwhelming evidence supports the idea that women quite often (shock) date men for reasons other than their height and looks (but Red Pill and HAYPURGAMEE). Yes, these are factors but not always the most important ingredients (think Krauser above).

Walk around any British or overseas university campus, around any major city and you see attractive young women dating positively unremarkable men (in other words, they aren’t 6 feet plus, jacked, sporting great physiques or baller lifestyle tells). Normality dates normality across the younger age cohort. Unremarkable-looking young men frequently are seen with rather attractive and in many cases beautiful young women. These guys in all probability don’t have any understanding of the Red Pill or daygame and the girl’s selection behaviour is a more complex recipe of physical attraction blended with future projection (i.e. is he suitable to date into a formal relationship to build a family with), is he culturally acceptable (i.e. in synch with national/religious/family historical values) is he socially acceptable (i.e. similar age) and does he have implicit behaviours (trustworthy, normal funny and reliable). I am almost sure that Thomas Crown wrote his post after crumbling a Black Pill into powder form and snorting a line of it. It is soaked in resignation and authoritarian recourse (just be good-looking and tall). Ultimately, it belies his extremely poorly understood prism of attraction for women – which is far more complex than looks alone (see here). In the case of Krauser and other guys who reached the very pinnacle of elite daygame, they understood that the emotional experience we create with a woman is often far more important than the simple presentation of our physical attributes. Lastly, don’t get me started on the passage “dating a point above their looks”. I have written about this previously here.

The quote below is the definition of anti-game. The whole point of game to me is to obtain girls outside of my pay grade. I cannot begin to tell you just how different my mindset is to this quit-and-give-up attitude.

The quote below takes readers back into classic Bait-and-Switch/Straw Man territory by presenting a position and using a completely unrelated and highly implausible metaphorical stance to illustrate or support said position. There is a reason the argument is weak and there is a better reason the argument needs support by such tactics (Hey you, reader…look over here at my shiny new way of attempting to make a rational argument). It is Bait and Switch. While Mosquitos and Tyson may present an interesting low IQ thought experiment for some – it is still and will remain a mediocre argument tactic in which one tries to control the conversation by presenting scenarios or information that is not relevant or anywhere nearly related to the claim that is being debated in order to try and control the conversation. The reasons for this should be obvious.

On reading Crown’s blog post I was struck by the deep air of negativity and Black Pill tone. It is all underpinned by his naivety. Let us not forget that guys like him (who started daygame in their 20s) are completely unaware of one of the biggest reasons for failure in daygame is not looks/height per se, but age rejection. It is easy to brush over this as a younger man because it is Tomorrow’s Problem. But this will become a factor as these men age and understand the limitations and simplicity of their previous views. With humility will come the realisation that a man’s looks were never really the issue, but in actual fact, the inability to form and elicit emotional states with women was the issue at hand. All else is Black Pill resignation. 

There will always be limiting factors in game and some of the most important ones are:

• Age: despite great game, you’re simply too old for most girls you open.
• Ethnicity: despite great game, the girls have been brought up to hold onto and respect their bio-socio heritage and they wish to protect the way they are viewed by their friends, family and society more widely.
• Socially abnormal male behaviours. The easiest one to change by the way.
• A lack of great game. There are literally a handful of elite day gamers I know who can beat the system and seduce, with predictability, beautiful young women, Instagram models and the like, and date and sleep with them (I’ve banged a few Instagram models and I rather enjoyed it).
• Inability to create authentic emotional experiences both in set and after).
• Note how I have not included your height and looks in this section on limiting factors (a central thrust of the Crown piece).

BroodingSea, July 2023

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