Low Value Relationships

Recently, Naughty Nomad posted an interesting Tweet that divided some opinion. Essentially, it asked the question: can a relationship function on a premise where the man can fuck around but the woman can’t? At first glance this may seem to be winning lottery ticket and the very definition of a have your cake and eat it. In the relatively low-IQ/limited life-experience/easily-led/influenced corner of the manosphere, all manner of inherited wisdoms such as this one are debated ad nauseam and writ-large into established truth. In the overwhelming number of cases they are born out of misapplied evolutionary science (e.g. Rollo) and in more extreme cases co-opted into grifter-logic espoused by a new generation e.g. the Tate Brothers.

My instinctive reaction to this is two-fold: On one hand this type of relationship (and I refer to it as a relationship in the loosest sense) may have some foundation in 3rd world nations (e.g. across many South American countries) where Favela sluts on long-term retainers and pay-for-play has been popularised into a form of lifestyle by the John Anthony’s of this world. In these renditions we see the girlfriends (whores) covered in multiple tattoos showing their fannies to the Red Pill Space on YouTube where it can be neatly packaged by such shysters as a legitimate form of existence (look at me with all my girlfriends) conveniently ignoring the elephant in the room that the girls are overwhelmingly broken shanks whose body count should terrify any normal man. Instead, it is eagerly lapped up by crowds of gullible fools on YouTube who suckle at the vomit tit in envy of these squalid little ‘high-value’ lifestyles.

On the other hand we see the emergence of an idea that high-value women in the West (by west I include central and Eastern Europe) would be open to this notion. The basic premise (see Tweet below) is that emotional monogamy can be provided to a woman in return for her sexual monogamy. Inherent in this position is the male-centric process-based narrative that a binary exists in opposition (women just need emotional loyalty while men want sexual loyalty). Read any book (as I have on 1950s/50s Anthropology) and you will see where this outdated idea stems from. It’s a fucking retarded idea that ignores reality to package-off men and women into these two binaries.

So I decided to ask for the opinion of 10 women that I know (I have slept with most of them) and have a degree of closeness to, sufficiently so that they feel they could open up to me with their feelings. These are all attractive women in their teens and early 20s and would be considered attractive and sought-after women. I asked the basic question: would you let your boyfriend fuck around on you if he promised to give you ’emotional monogamy? If not, why?

I was surprised at the detail these girls went in to with many of them sending long voice notes which I sadly don’t have time to transcribe here. But I was not surprised at the tone. They were universally disgusted at the idea. I have included the screen shots of some of the messages below. The basic feedback given was that the idea repulsed many of them. They overwhelming felt that any girl accepting this lacks self-respect, was being emotionally abused and probably controlled and coerced by her boyfriend and in a deeply toxic situation if she wasn’t allowed to behave as him. They stated that it would indicate a deeply flawed relationship where the girl lacked the emotional maturity to stand up for herself, or could not because she was being abused in some way. Some even mentioned that their parents did not bring them up that way to find value in men like that. Some said it would be driven by a deep sense of insecurity on the part of the man – who felt compelled to chase other women for reasons that probably entered on his low self-esteem and lack of certainty about what wants in life, or that he simply isn’t in a relationship with a woman he feels sexually attracted to and is only with her out of fear being alone. They said they could not stomach the idea of their man being with another woman and they should be enough for him sexually and emotionally. They also stated that a girl in this type of relationship was probably also very insecure, emotionally naive and lacking the ability to scale her worth in the relationship (some of the voice notes I received really went into detail on this). Interestingly, many of these girls were brought up in good families and two girls mentioned how they could not look at their parents if they discovered they were in such a relationship.

There are many men/coaches in the Red Pill space who talk pure and unadulterated bullshit. They offer sage advice from their parents homes, they are unemployed or have never lived with a woman. Yet they hold court and influence over a significant number of men about relationships and offer a horribly skewed and twisted worldview. They parrot and regurgitate Red Pill agenda as truism and gospel without analysing their position and gauging its merits simply because of fragile ego. They ask you to join them on the race to the bottom. I take the other position. It is refreshing to know that there are strong-willed women out there who are willing to place themselves into a mans’ life sexually and emotionally and they have a right to expect the same in return. It is good to know that we have women who will fight back against the Red Pill bile that so many men swallow without critical thought. Each to their own. I have nothing against people in open relationships as long as both partners treat each other with respect and don’t control or deny the other the same benefits that they themselves enjoy (after all, who wants to control his girlfriend).

The point I am making here is to urge my readers to resist the squalor of some aspects of this Red Pill environment. And this worldview on relationships is one of them. As are the types of women who tolerate them. Either you’re weak, insecure and have some criminalistic tendencies to coerce and control your partner, or she’s too fragile and lacks the confidence to stand up to you.

Don’t be that man, and don’t date that type of woman.

Shit doesn’t taste like chocolate no matter how much you tell me it does.

BroodingSea, February 2023